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'Lord of the Rings' Anime Prequel Film Set at New Line Cinema: “The War of the Rohirrim” will be a theatrical release and bring back original trilogy writer Philippa Boyens as a consultant

https://www.thewrap.com/lord-of-the-rings-anime-prequel-film-war-of-the-rohirrim-new-line-cinema-warner-bros/
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u/falgoutsethm 4d ago

When I saw “LOTR anime prequel” I had to double check that it isn’t April 1st.

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u/FM-101 4d ago

"Gandarfu-san!!"

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u/bpetersonlaw 4d ago

On a related note, I know The Lord of the Rings (TV series) is supposed to debut on Amazon Prime in 2021. Have they provided more info on when the debut will be?

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u/Malachi108 4d ago

The official release date is still late 2021, but with COVID delays everyone's expecting it to be pushed to 2022.

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u/here_for_the_meems 4d ago edited 4d ago

WoT (wheel of time) is most likely late 2021 since it already finished shooting. Evidence points to around Thanksgiving.

Which means they'll wait to release LOTR so it has time to take hold first.

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u/Russser 4d ago

Please let WoT be good! We need a new world to get lost in!

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u/midsummernightstoker 4d ago

Should I read the WoT books first? Isn't this the series where the author died before completing it? I don't know if I could handle another Dune.

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u/Russser 4d ago

Yes you should, Brandon Sanderson finished the series with the material Jordan left.

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u/Heckron 4d ago

And if you like WoT, you’ll love all of Sanderson’s own series. The Stormlight Archive and Mistborn series in particular. WoT was my segue into the Brando Sando universe and I’ve loved every moment.

The man is amazing and he’s on Reddit too. u/mistborn

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u/khinzaw 4d ago

Honestly, I think what Sanderson wrote was better than most of the middle books in the series which I felt started to drag. That being said, I felt book 10 which was wholly written by Jordan is where it started to pick back up so I'm not sure how much of the pickup was planned by Jordan and how much was Sanderson. The first 3 books are exceptional though.

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u/Russser 4d ago

I think Sanderson has been pretty forthright with the fact that a lot of the material in the last 3 had already been written by Jordan, especially the last book. He just needed to fill in the strokes, probably why book 11 picks up.

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u/Osirus1156 4d ago

I’m just finishing 10 after 4 years of working my way through these. Took a year break in the middle of 10. They’re all so so slow and he wrote so so much to say so little. I love the story but it feels like a politician wrote it.

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u/HiImMikeCastro 4d ago

Sanderson and Jordan's wife completed the series according to his notes.

And it ended strong

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u/midsummernightstoker 4d ago

Thank you!

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u/35mmpistol 4d ago

Just adding in to reiterate, Sandersons finish was strong enough that after I finished the zillion books of the WoT, I immediately followed it with..... everything sanderson has ever written 0_0

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u/IrrelevantPuppy 4d ago

I’m fucking pumped for WoT.

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u/HolyFuckingShitNuts 4d ago

I'm SUPER apprehensive about it. I don't expect great things.

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u/kenlubin 4d ago

I expect Nynaeve to tug her braid.

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u/Hatedpriest 4d ago

Will Thom knuckle his moustaches? Will Egwene fold her arms under her bosom?

One can only hope...

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u/Rubthebuddhas 4d ago

New drinking game. Everyone does a shot each time she does that or gets fussy. You and all your buddies will die of alcohol poisoning in the first six minutes.

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u/IrrelevantPuppy 4d ago edited 4d ago

Me too. I’ve seen nothing concrete to make me worried, snippets of info have been fine. But like you said it’s just so easy for them to fuck it up and we’ve seen it happen to almost every fantasy adaptation.

It could be good, hell it could set a new bar to help us forget GoT. I have no specific reason to doubt it yet. It’s just, NO ONE has a good track record on these things.

My biggest worry is that WoT is filled to the brim with fantastical visual spectacle. So the series is going to be a nonstop compromise between CGI cost and time and practicality. I hope they come up with a LOT of clever short cuts so we can still see the things that would do the series justice.

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u/DrowningBronco 4d ago

Unrelated to the show, but Amazon cancelled the Lord of the Rings MMORPG they were making :(

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u/pm_boobs_send_nudes 4d ago

If it helps you feel better, it was because they couldn't come to an agreement with a Chinese company on how to monetize the game and rip people off.

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u/mysteriousmetalscrew 4d ago

Exactly, no one one-ups amazon. If someone is going to get screwed over, they'll happily do it themselves.

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u/whales-are-assholes 4d ago edited 4d ago

Niantic laughs in the background

Mind you, Niantic is an American company, and not Chinese.

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u/Diekjung 4d ago

To go a bit more in Detail. Amazon contracted the Chinese Developer Leyou Technology to develop the lotr mmo. Leyou was bought by Tencent in December 2020. Because of that Amazon and Leyou had to set up a new contract. But they couldn’t find an agreement.

I hope that Amazon is looking for a new developer. Would really like a lotr mmo with modern graphics.

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u/hullor 4d ago

Thank god.

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u/Zaknoid 4d ago

Theres already an awesome lotr mmo that's been around since like 2007ish and has a ton of content. I don't play anymore but it's really good, the world they made really is very true to Tolkien. I would've liked a new modern one but if you were really trying to play a mmo in that universe I def still recommend lord of the rings online.

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u/flyingboarofbeifong 4d ago

LOTRO was a hoot. I had (have?) no friends so I would jam out on the citadel defense events on my own. Shit was intense. I remember not making it as far as I would have liked to because I just no clue how to progress in the game.

Barrow Downs was amazing though. I still get shivers when I think of the time Tom Bombadil saved me by knocking down a wall and destroying a powerful wight through the power of a jaunty tune and a joyous jig.

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u/SylphSeven 4d ago

I loved the defense events! I would have days where I would be playing those until it was 7 in the morning.

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u/Clustaskee 4d ago

Looks like Rohan vs the Dunlendings, Corsair of Umbar and Easterling. Probably not much orcs in this one.

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u/Malachi108 4d ago

If they stick to the outline of the Appendices (which even Jackson's movies have taken some large liberties with), the plot would look roughly like this.

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u/Deggit 4d ago edited 4d ago

Stories need to have a standalone reason to exist, a question that needs answering, and a structure with a beginning and ending.

"A collection of stuff I recognize from previous good stories tossed together" is not a story, it's a different medium - a theme park ride. Theme parks are storytelling parasites. By that I mean that a ride only be cool, scary, beautiful, exciting, or funny because you remember the original story giving you the same experiences. You know how burps have a flavor of what you just ate? That's what it's like running into Kylo Ren at Disneyland. Theme parks also have no beginning or end, they exist in a timelessness that is supposed to "immerse" you but ends up feeling like a cardboard version of reality. You're wandering around Avatarland wondering when the big tree ritual is gonna start and a park employee in blue paint runs up to you and asks in a stage whisper if you've seen Jake Soo-lie because she's got a secret message to him from the Na'vi Resistance. Wow, I feel so "immersed"! That's how a theme park feels different from a story, and that's what happened with the Hobbit trilogy and the Star Wars sequels. The list of people who consider General Leia and Hobbit Legolas to be great characters is, yknow, I'm sure those people exist... are they the same people cheering Darth Maul's sick breakdancing moves?

People gonna say, "the appendices." There will always be a thread to pull on the edge of any story, and a good storyteller knows the edge of their knitting design. That's why Tolkien consigned stuff to the appendices in the first place. Contrast with GRRM rule-of-cooling the Iron Islands back into his story over and over, even though the show confirmed the Ironmen are peripheral to the ending."But Euron is so cool! What about his epic horn! You could make a whole movie about it!" yeah you could, and shouldn't.

There's also an element involved in these "spin off stories" and "extended universes" which doesn't have a good name yet. It's not the same thing as "fanservice." I'd call it "Distance to Audience."

What is distance to audience? The conceit of a traditional book or movie is that it's like a portal to another world that doesn't acknowledge or care about you, and there just happens to be exciting and interesting things happening in that world. Contrast that with some other art forms: pro wrestling, juggling, stage magic, the circus, and some musicals... the distance between creator and audience is shrunk or nullified; the entertainment doesn't have any standalone reality and would kind of disappear into nothing WITHOUT the feedback loop of crowd-pleasing stuff and loud crowd reaction. The entertainment exists to "pump up the crowd" and you could to some degree say that "the experience of being a pumped up crowd" is the actual substance of the entertainment not "the experience of watching someone do flips on a tightrope." And this all circles back because erasing the distance to the audience is also part of the APPEAL of theme parks, for people who like theme parks. There's two kinds of people in the world: the people who are scared of Darth Vader and the people who want to get a side hug and a keepsake photo with him.

So, now consider - for example - the relationship dramas in the later Harry Potter novels (and the awful glurgy epilogue), or the way Cleganebowl turned out in Game of Thrones, or to some extent the entire character of Anakin Skywalker in the Star Wars prequels. When something is "treated as cool" within a story purely because the creator knows the audience is going to clap it, things start to get out of control. The storyteller is no longer behind a magic curtain and the story is no longer really in another world. It's a building contradiction and either the storyteller will steer it back to being A STORY or everything will end up being a theme park.

All that being said, StandAlone Complex is really good, both seasons.

EDIT: people who want to subscribe to my newsletter can instead read an entire essay about why Aragorn almost fought Sauron in the movies, why it's good that he didn't, and why that's the main difference between LOTR and The Hobbit

PS. What makes movies fascinating is they occupy this bizarre middle ground. Marvel movies are MEANT to be seen with a crowd and are CONSCIOUSLY edited to create space for crowd reaction ( Watch how Infinity War stops dead for 7 whole seconds at the "Kick names, take ass" line or here's another example where the reaction shot on Black Widow lets the audience laugh at Iron Man's line ). And yet at the same time they are still stories. Not sure how they fit into any grand theory!

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u/Irrepressible87 4d ago

I don't know how that rant ended at an endorsement of Stand Alone Complex, but as a GitS stan, I officially endorse the entirety of what you said based on the merit of the conclusion.

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u/shewy92 4d ago

One of Stand Alone Complex's directors is involved in this anime, I guess that's how it relates to that rant.

Kenji Kamiyama, known for “Blade Runner: Black Lotus” and “Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex,” will direct

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u/psychocopter 4d ago

I'm just interested in seeing the animators who will work on this and hoping it'll be more traditional 2d rather than 3d. Its good they have a decent director who has written for and directed animation before.

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u/TheDankestReGrowaway 4d ago

Stories need to have a standalone reason to exist, a question that needs answering, and a structure with a beginning and ending.

You've clearly never read a Pynchon novel.

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u/ClarkTwain 4d ago

Mason and Dixon has these things, but Pynchon isn't for everybody. I love him, but I know a lot of people who can't stand him.

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u/The_Ironhand 4d ago

SAC was good tho

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u/Deggit 4d ago

SAC was excellent, full of interesting and well defined characters, including the supporting cast.

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u/Ensaru4 4d ago

Yeah, the Hobbit did not need to be a trilogy. The greed was a bit much on display.

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u/phatelectribe 4d ago

There was a very simple reason for that, and it's back on display with the prequel:

New Line Cinema were a smaller company, but they'd had success making things like thrillers and comedies to the point they thought they were a major player (at least Toby thought he was). New Line Secured LOTR and suddenly they were playing in the big league. it was a massive success but it went to their heads in the following 2 years after LOTR and TH, they produced around 30 movies, all of which tanked save one or two like Horrible Bosses but those were ensemble movies with low upfronts and big chunks of box office given away, meaning that despite lower budgets and high takings, NLC didn't make much in the end.

It meant they had just pissed about $200m down the drain, and even a big studios like disney (see Jon Carter for more info) will be in trouble and start to make heads roll.

New Line then had the legendary staff massacre in one day went from nearly 500 employees to less than 80, with hundreds of people literally walking out with their office possessions and unemployment.

Somehow (which always confused the hell out of me) Toby Emmerich (who had been in charge of the entire misguided rise and brutal demise) managed to fail upwards, got a board position on Warner Brothers who had stepped in to bail out NLC, and now he's Chairman of WB.

The problem was that NLC owed a ton of money, WB took on those debts so now they will squeeze every last drop of that IP that they can.

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u/Keraunos8 4d ago

This is the most Hollywood ‘Hollywood’ story since Kevin Smith and the saga of Jon Peters

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u/MrWeirdoFace 4d ago

Is that the one about Superman and the robot spider?

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u/Keraunos8 4d ago

Indeed it is.

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u/benmck90 4d ago edited 4d ago

I was so mad about it how The Hobbit movies turned out.

Especially since they nailed the casting (Martin Freeman as Bilbo? I can't think of anyone better), so it had the potential to be great....but they botched everything else.

I've watched the LOTR trilogy many dozens of times. I've only watched each of the Hobbit movies once in theatres. On the flip side, I've read the Hobbit book many more times than the LOTR trilogy (for perhaps obvious reasons :p).

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u/cybercuzco 4d ago

There is a good fan edit if the three movies into one that is good.

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u/Which_Yesterday 4d ago

Smaug wasn't that bad (fight scenes with him were awful though)

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u/benmck90 4d ago

I did really like Smaug actually.

The CGI on the orcs was horrid though (especially Azog).

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u/escobizzle 4d ago

Dwarf river barrel ride CGI was some of the worst shit I've ever seen.

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u/CozyMoses 4d ago

I'm a huuuuuuge LOTR fan and felt the same when I first saw the Hobbits. I will say though that the extended versions are much more palatable on rewatch, particularly if you're not going into it expecting the exact same caliber of movie. They're very much different kinds of trilogies, the Hobbit Trilogy feels like Bilbo telling the story to Frodo, and Gandalf even says in the first few minutes " a good story deserves to be exaggerated"

That being said all the good will in the world can't help make Hobbit Legolas anywhere close to bearable.

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u/ShmebulockForMayor 4d ago

It's a remarkable difference. The Battle of the Five Armies felt both unnecessarily long and incredibly disjointed in the theater. Characters seemed to teleport across the battlefield and it didn't make any sense. The extended version is obviously longer, but it actually fixes the disjointed effect by connecting the gaps created by the poor editing of the theater version, and because it flows so much better it even feels shorter. It's not a great movie by any means (the Master's little ratty comic relief was still a load of cringe every time he was on screen), but it is enjoyable in that state, while the theater version just left a sour taste in my mouth.

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u/Taurothar 4d ago

I don't think the Hobbit translates well to a movie timeline in one two or even three movies. The story beats are spread in a way that you basically would be better off with an episodic mini series across 6-10 hours of footage.

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u/TheKokoMoko 4d ago

I’d love to watch the Hobbit in a miniseries, however depending on the company producing it I’d be afraid of it becoming a 21-24 episode series with 75% of it being filler.

I’ve been watching a lot of British TV lately and they can really make some stand up series while keeping them short compared to American TV. So it could be lovely with the right team.

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u/oh_look_a_fist 4d ago

American TV, especially shows on the nationally aired channels (Fox, ABC, NBC, CBS), squeeze every last dime out of something - well past the point it has "jumped the shark". Everything is overdone to be able to create another episode, get another season contract, until finally either the actors decide to move on or the viewers actually decide to turn it off. I hate it.

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u/TheKokoMoko 4d ago

They are really good if you need a show that’s just on while you are doing something else. Like I play a lot of video games and 3D model while watching American TV, because you really just have to see moments of it to understand the rest. However, I don’t think I could just watch it by itself without getting bored.

In my opinion the CW superhero shows were the worst with filler episodes. The only show that I can recall with long seasons that kept me completely invested the entire time was Lost. That was some good shit.

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u/Starslip 4d ago

I won't pretend Flash was ever good tv, but they've made it so much worse with the extent they've dragged it out. So much random filler and needless continuation of a story that doesn't need to keep going.

Supernatural was even worse for this, and that one did start off as good. Eric Kripke made the smart choice to leave at the end of season 5 when there was an obvious ending to the story, cause the story he wanted to tell was done. Then it went on for 10 more seasons

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u/LrdCheesterBear 4d ago

Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norell is a fantastic BBC miniseries based on a novel of the same name. It is translated wonderfully and is very close to capturing the magic and detail of the source material almost line for line.

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u/PancakeMagician 4d ago

Exactly. The Hobbit would have been a fantastic animated series covered over one season. Not necessarily anime, but some sort of animation stylized to fit the world of middle earth.

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u/ih8dolphins 4d ago

Uhhhh... You mean like THE mother fucking Hobbit cartoon movie?

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u/bartonar 4d ago

It could have been two, I think, just because #1 was largely pretty good. Three was grotesque.

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u/Ensaru4 4d ago

I agree with two movies. Three movies were overkill for the kind of content in this story.

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u/XtaC23 4d ago

Bordered on fan fiction.

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u/GenghisKazoo 4d ago

GRRM keeps rule-of-cooling the Iron Islands back into the story even though the show has now told us they are firmly peripheral to his intended ending.

The Others are apparently also peripheral to the intended ending.

Either that or maybe the guy who made Troy just is less comfortable with fantasy elements than the sci-fi/fantasy author.

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u/RichestMangInBabylon 4d ago

True. In the books it really seems like Euron is going to have an outsize storyline compared to the show. Theon also has already had major role in events, not to mention one of the best character arcs IMO. Plus the fleet is militarily causing mayhem in a way which puts pressure on the rest of the realm.

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u/5states1life 4d ago

But did you ever write why everyone but Snape was miscast?

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u/Mydogsblackasshole 4d ago

Using the GoT show to draw any conclusions on the ASOIAF series ending is pretty dumb. Euron will almost certainly play a bigger part

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u/PunkRockRobot 4d ago

Sincere question: are Tolkien and LoTR fans excited about this? It is coming off as a cash grab, and while that may be fine with certain franchises that start off broad and open like Star Wars or Marvel films, or even Harry Potter which has volumes upon volumes to draw from and where JK Rowling is still alive to actually write more stories.

LoTr seems to be pretty limited in scope from my more casual experiences watching it. The Hobbit absolutely felt thin as film, with too many additives.

Maybe a more hardcore fan can explain if there is a vastness enough to sustain this amount of material in cinema or for streaming.

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u/A_Mouse_In_Da_House 4d ago

The hobbit felt bad because 1) last minute director switch massively cut pre-production, 2) expanded a single book to 3 films, and 3) added shit that wasn't remotely in the book.

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u/Existential_Owl 4d ago

3) added shit that wasn't remotely in the book.

Gandalf's subplot could have worked. The events did occur at the same time as Bilbo's adventure, and they're an important tie-in to the LOTR movies.

Unfortunately they turned Sauron into a generically boring evil villain, and they didn't really give us anything interesting regarding Saruman either.

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u/temporal712 4d ago

I agree with everything you said. However, it feels weird to say that they turned sauron into a generically boring evil villain. He practically codified the trope. It's hard to get more generically evil in fantasy than Sauron.

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u/Existential_Owl 4d ago edited 4d ago

Sauron of the Silmarillion has motivations. Yeah, they're generic bad guy motivations these days, but they exist. He has a personality.

The movie didn't attempt even a semblence of a character, and, due to the lack of a decent villain, the whole plotline suffered for it.

It's also implied in the stories that one of the reasons why the bearers of the One Ring become so possessive is because they're being affected by this personality of his. That could've been an interesting angle to dig deeper into, for example.

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u/xternal7 4d ago

3) added shit that wasn't remotely in the book.

You forgot the key part: without putting any effort in it

Adding shit that wasn't even remotely in the book worked wonders for the first two How To Train Your Dragon movies (and ironically, things started to get very sucky when they tried to do the book ending in the last one).

If Peter Jackson (was allowed to) put some actual effort in the additions that weren't in the book, it's possible that The Hobbit wouldn't suck as badly as it did.

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u/royalhawk345 4d ago

Maybe a more hardcore fan can explain if there is a vastness enough to sustain this amount of material in cinema or for streaming.

On the whole, yes. LotR is famous for having some of the most thorough and expansive lore of any series. I know Amazon's series, for example, is going to be about the forging of the Rings, which should be interesting.

That said, this story specifically is definitely less detailed than most, and except for Helm Hammerhand, largely deficient of significant characters. If I were making a LotR anime I'd do something that would be a spectacle that would be almost impossible to film like the War of Wrath or the Fall Of Gondolin. I know I want to see Balrogs riding dragons into battle.

By comparison the story of the Rohirrim is pretty mundane.

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u/ceratophaga 4d ago

They don't have the license for either of that. They can invent new stuff in the second age, and incorporate third age characters, but the stories told in the Silmarillion are off-limits until the Tolkien estate sells them (which would go against Christopher Tolkien's wishes)

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u/royalhawk345 4d ago

Ah didn't realize that. In that case I'd go with Angmar's destruction

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u/HelpVerizonSwitch 4d ago

animated Fall of Gondolin

Balrogs riding dragons into battle

“And Tuor’s heart was filled with longing.” 🥺

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u/tired_and_stresed 4d ago

That said, this story specifically is definitely less detailed than most, and except for Helm Hammerhand, largely deficient of significant characters.

That could be a strength to an adaptation if handled with finesse. With so little detail beyond the basic outline of events, there's a lot more freedom to explore themes and smaller stories happening around that larger metaplot. This story could follow the struggles of a simple soldier that through the conflict rises to a place of command out of sheer necessity, the tragedy of a family with both Rohirrim and Dunelandish ties being torn apart by the war, and pretty much anything else that fits the setting without disrupting canon. While there's certainly a danger that the resulting story just doesn't fit the tone of Middle Earth as JRR Tolkien wanted, I'd take an honest attempt to fill in a less detailed area of his lore than attempting to shoehorn new narratives and characters into a more recognizable tale (see the Third Age video game).

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u/psl26 4d ago

LOTR might not be as vast as the franchises you mentioned but middle Earth certainly is. A lot of Tolkein's letters, his unfinished books, the Silmarillion are all pretty vast and can be expanded up by a capable director.

As for it crying a cynical cash grab, what isn't anymore? That is unfortunately what franchise filmmaking has become.

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u/FunnySmartAleck 4d ago

There's absolutely more than enough material. The Silmarillion, which is basically the bible of Middle-earth and is about as thick, goes over the entire history of Tolkien's world. The vastness and scope of the Silmarillion alone makes the Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings seem extremely small by comparison, not to mention many of his other works that have been edited and published by Tolkien's son Christopher. While most authors might have some basic backstory to their world, Tolkien created multiple languages from scratch and wrote an entire history and mythology that is only briefly referenced in The Lord of the Rings. Hell, Sauron isn't even the worst bad guy in Middle-earth. His former boss Morgoth is basically the devil, and the source of all evil in Middle-earth, and the epic battles in The Lord of the Rings pale in comparison to the scope of the wars waged in the First Age of Middle-earth.

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u/iknownuffink 4d ago

Hell, Sauron isn't even the worst bad guy in Middle-earth. His former boss Morgoth is basically the devil, and the source of all evil in Middle-earth

Then there's Ungoliant, an Eldritch spider monster, bigger and worse than Shelob (who is a descendant). No one really knows who created her or where she came from, and even Morgoth is a bit afraid of, especially when she tried to eat him that time.

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u/nowlan101 4d ago

And then screamed like a little fucking bitch when he got caught lol.

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u/EN-Esty 4d ago

Whilst it's true that there's a greater breadth in his other works it's important to remember that there isn't nearly the same detail in how the events unfold. Those details, such as the conversations between characters, would have to be fleshed out by someone else. That's a hell of a job and one I doubt many are up to. They couldn't replicate GRRM's style in GoT for the later seasons so good luck to whoever tries to emulate Tolkien.

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u/Oraxy51 4d ago

1st Age would have a lot of content

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u/Lordborgman 4d ago

1st Age is really the ONLY thing I wanted into movies/series. War of Wrath, Fall of Gondolin, Angband, Ungoliant, The Silmarils, Melkor vs Fingolfin, Balrog Armies lead by Gothmog, Glaurung and armies of dragons, Ancalagon the Black in all his Glory, Numenor, Glorfindel, Faenor, Luthien, the Elves at their height of power etc...

But nope, boring ass humans.

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u/Oraxy51 4d ago

BALROGS RIDING DRAGONS, Legendary warriors going toe to toe with Balrogs, The Sons of Feanor and going from “wow this Feanor guy is such a bro” to “holy crap they are insane extremists at anyone who has even as little as sneezed in the direction of a Simarilion” like making content easier to digest and told would be so amazing and awesome.

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u/Lordborgman 4d ago

Mostly I just want to SEE these events finally animated/live action instead of just in my head. Probably going to be denied that, just as I was with events from Star Wars EU.

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u/XtaC23 4d ago

The new shows take place in the Second Age tho. I'd love some First Age content. Hopefully in time they'll do something with it.

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u/Toolazytolink 4d ago

The Numenor saga alone could be like 5 seasons

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u/thomasstearns42 4d ago

Tolkien created an entire world, its peoples, its languages, and the majority of history for each. Its vast. Like really vast. Entire elvish history. Entire human history. Entire Dwarves history. The entire history of hobbits. On and on. Its genesis, its gods. There is a lot.

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u/AFK_Tornado 4d ago

I know all of those words, but when you put them together like that, they don't make sense.

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u/Impossible_Garbage_4 4d ago

Yeah every additional word was a different punch in the face. I hope it’s good

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u/CancelThisBitches 4d ago

Can't wait for my hot elf waifu

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u/forsbergisgod 4d ago

I've been watching the 1977 animated version of the hobbit with my kid a lot recently and can't help but think how weird the relationship must be between Aragorn and Arwen. The elfs are barely humanoid in that....

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u/UnluckyHorseman 4d ago edited 4d ago

There's a Return of the King by the same creators, and I'm pretty sure it just ignores the existence of that subplot.

Edit: My Legolas was wrong, but this is the Hobbit's Elrond.

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u/LordApocalyptica 4d ago

…am I supposed to be disturbed by this?

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u/DankestMage99 4d ago

He probably means the Wood Elves.

https://imgur.com/iyI3Cep

Thrandruil and company are a little different than Elrond…

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u/PaxEtRomana 4d ago

Like it or not this is what peak performance looks like

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u/NotClever 4d ago

This is the ideal elf body.

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u/UnluckyHorseman 4d ago

Yeah, I'd like to see what they'd have done with Legolas. I'm pretty sure the animated ROTK left him out because of the way Mirkwood Elves were animated in the Hobbit.

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u/UnluckyHorseman 4d ago

Nope, just pointing out that not all the elves in those movies were monstrosities.

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u/escape_of_da_keets 4d ago

Tfw Aragorn is a sussy baka.

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u/derstherower 4d ago

“Hey Arwen. Are you alright? That was a nasty fall you took there. Good thing you’re in the elf hospital.”

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u/nfolsen 4d ago

Easy there Roboute

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u/Nexlon 4d ago

*Rowboat Girlyman

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u/fizzlefist 4d ago

HERESY DETECTED

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u/sotos4 4d ago

Warg-girls!

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u/newmacbookpro 4d ago

You will taste… man-flesh

(っ˘ڡ˘ς)

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u/JackBelvier 4d ago

Stop, you might awaken something 🐺🍑

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u/MrBulger 4d ago

Yall need jesus

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u/WiredSky 4d ago

He already woke up.

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u/kneeco28 4d ago

Kenji Kamiyama, known for “Blade Runner: Black Lotus” and “Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex,” will direct.

There's a Blade Runner universe animated movie?

Is it good?

Edit: Looked it up. It's TV and it's not out yet. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blade_Runner:_Black_Lotus

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u/MaesterCylinder 4d ago

There’s a short that came out right before 2049. It’s called Blackout 2022, really fun

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u/TheMightyBreeze 4d ago

Wasn’t this directed by the guy that did Akira?

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u/action__andy 4d ago

Nah--guy that did Cowboy Bebop.

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u/_Diskreet_ 4d ago

These are not disappointing corrections, is it any good ?

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u/thetarm 4d ago

Pretty good IMO

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u/APiousCultist 4d ago

Tonally the most complex of the 2049 promotional shorts, but also the most removed from the plot of the film. I guess akin to The Animatrix. I'm pretty sure the shorts are all on Youtube though, so you can watch for yourself. I don't think it's longer than five minutes.

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u/action__andy 4d ago

I thought it was firmly okay.

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u/brucebananaray 4d ago edited 4d ago

No, Shinichiro Watanabe made the short film of Blade Runner anime.

He is mostly famous with Cowboy Bebop and Samurai Champloo.

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u/aboycandream 4d ago

Shirou Watanabe

Shinichirō Watanabe

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u/6_Hours_Ago 4d ago

Ghost:SAC was amazing.

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u/_hack0slash_alpha 4d ago edited 4d ago

Can't find it streaming anywhere. Anyone know?

Found it: adultswim.com got dat whole piece baby

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u/Owny_McOwnerton 4d ago

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u/_hack0slash_alpha 4d ago

thanks mate, found it

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u/OfCourseIKnowHim 4d ago

It’s pretty awesome. I remember the second season being a bit better than the first. But I haven’t seen it in a while.

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u/thebbman 4d ago

I thought the Laughing Man was the better antagonist overall, but the second season had some gorgeous animation and fight scenes.

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u/PogromStallone 4d ago

Stand Alone Complex is so good so I hope this doesn't suck.

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u/acautelado 4d ago

There's also the "2022" great anime short.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrZk9sSgRyQ

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u/keepingitsession 4d ago

Thank you for the link. I really enjoyed it. Reminds me of the Animatrix series

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u/Garthmer 4d ago

I knew soon as Christopher Tolkien died his family was going to push adaptations.

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u/MayoGhul 4d ago

Yeh...I’m really hoping LotR doesn’t turn into some Marvel type of franchise with 1000 iterations and releases. It feels more special in its current state and I’m happy with what we’ve gotten.

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u/NameOfNoSignificance 4d ago

I’m going to shut my eyes and close my ears to it all. OG trilogy. I don’t wanna see anything else if it’s not made in that style.

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u/Sololegends 4d ago

With the quality of the hobbit movies, I fear that has startes already

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u/JasonAnarchy 4d ago

Well that's unexpected, hope it's good!

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u/csgothrowaway 4d ago

Same but I do think its kind of funny.

The idea of Tolkien discovering there's an anime adaptation of his work is funny to me, not because his reaction would be some form of disappointment but more because it'd be "What the fuck is anime?"

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u/redwall_hp 4d ago

Well, the big adaptations before Peter Jackson were animated, back in the 70s. You had the Ralph Bakshi LOTR and the Rankin-Bass Hobbit and Return of the King.

Oddly enough, the Japanese company that Rankin-Bass contracted the fill frames out to later became Studio Ghibli.

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u/Dvanpat 4d ago

TIL awesome

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u/zZSkyNinjaZz 4d ago

“You know Disney?”

“Yeah?”

“It’s that but made in Japan and with cute girls.”

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u/Gerrywalk 4d ago

And I thought I couldn’t love Tolkien more

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u/Algoresball 4d ago

Yeah he’d probably not be too thrilled with any of the adaptations tbh

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u/MellowHallow 4d ago

I'd imagine Christopher's take that the adaptions completely miss the point of the story would be shared by his father.

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u/Syatek 4d ago

"…I recognize his talent, but it has always seemed to me hopelessly corrupted. Though in most of the ‘pictures’ proceeding from his studios there are admirable or charming passages, the effect of all of them is to me disgusting. Some have given me nausea…"
- Tolkein on Disney

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u/csgothrowaway 4d ago

"Why is lady Eowyn so...buxom...And what have they done to her Rohirrim armor? She's supposed to be in disguise!"

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u/TannenFalconwing 4d ago

Well great now I'm expecting a buxom Rohirrim in this anime and a generous amount of bareback galloping

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u/csgothrowaway 4d ago

If I don't see at least one Oliphaunt do a UwU, my disappointment will be immeasurable.

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u/LOBM 4d ago

Look at old LOTR art, man.

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u/CybranM 4d ago

sure you have this image of Eowyn fighting the Witch King in some dubious "armour" but then theres this image of some orks in similar uhh, "armour"

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u/Nobletwoo 4d ago

Stupid sexy uruk hai.

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u/paggo_diablo 4d ago

“Nothing at all is back on the menu, boys”

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u/CMuenzen 4d ago

Sauron: Yo, Morgoth. The orcs you made are good and all, but...

Morgoth: But what?

Sauron: Is there a reason you had to, well, you know, their armour and stuff.

Morgoth: What exactly about it?

Sauron: Why do they have to be dummy thicc? Common footsoldiers should have no business being that thicc.

Morgoth: You see, instead of beating drums to war, they simply clap their cheeks when marching for an extra intimidation.

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u/XtraCrispy02 4d ago

Rule 34 artists are typing...

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u/son_of_noah 4d ago

I'm going to be honest "lord of the rings" and "anime" are two things I never thought would combine one day

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u/FinestOldToby 4d ago

The Rohirrim? I better hear some violins

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u/F0sh 4d ago

Hardanger fiddles*

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u/finakechi 4d ago

NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD*

*I also knew this.

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u/beesealio 4d ago

TIL about hardanger fiddles and their use in the LOTR soundtrack, that's super cool.

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u/F0sh 4d ago

The sad thing is that they were played in more of a violin style - missed opportunity! OTOH the Rohirrim were modelled on Anglo-Saxons, and the Hardanger fiddle is a Norwegian instrument so shrug!

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u/Jkay064 4d ago

On the dawn of the 3rd day, look to the East and find Chance Thomas’ absolutely gob smacking orchestral scores for the Rohan areas on Lord of the Rings Online mmorpg. They are on YouTube. Look for Theme for Rohan, Learning to Ride, and Roaming Free.

Prepare to have the hair on your neck stand up. Drums, violin, flute and male chorus singing in Rohirrim aplenty

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u/MetalusVerne 4d ago

Sint u ayy-va

Sint u ayy-ska

Maru ee va sa dukuu

Or at least, that's what it always sounded like

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u/Jkay064 4d ago

Sindon we bald, Sindon we strang, Eorlingas , Fram ond trum. Sindon we bald, Sindon we strang, Eorlingas , Arë lang.

Rough translation:

We are hardy, We are rugged, We are Rohan, We are free. We are hardy, We are rugged, We are Rohan, Standing tall in glory.

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u/RuddyGoober 4d ago

Does this mean we're going to find out where Gondor was when the Westfold fell?

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u/zestroz 4d ago

That's unfortunate."So it begins."

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u/F0sh 4d ago

The curse of a successful franchise is to be adapted, sequelled and prequelled until its memory is ruined.

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u/SamMan48 4d ago

The books and the original movies will always be stand alone, more content is just a bonus honestly.

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u/Malachi108 4d ago

And the book only exists becase "The Hobbit" (1937) sold well and the publisher specifically asked the writer for a sequel.

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u/BranchCommercial 4d ago

Nothing against anime (been a fan since 1995) but why is it the medium chosen for this?

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u/Illier1 4d ago

Probably to try and break into Eastern markets.

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u/JediGuyB 4d ago edited 4d ago

I think it partly has to do with general perception. Most animation in the west is either aimed at kids and/or has goofy character design and is a comedy. This is likely intended to be a serious film, and while anime can be goofy and for kids too I think it is more accepted as an "adult" animation style. Even in the west when we have more serious animated stories they often have obvious anime influences.

In other words, I've little issue thinking up serious adult centric anime, but I'm hard pressed of thinking the same for a western cartoon that either isn't primarily for kids or has a goofy art style.

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u/Onomanatee 4d ago

I think most of the more adult-oriented 'western' animation is mostly European and a bit niche, like Persepolis, Waltz with Bashir, J'ai Perdu Mon Corps, ...

It's out there, but none of it is mainstream and often stays on the cinema festival tracks and not in mainstream cinematic releases. A shame. A lot of it is finding it's way to streaming services though.

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u/Otto_Matic82 4d ago

I hope this does well. I really wish the west was more open to animated adaptations as theatrical films or prestige television releases. It frees you up in so many ways and can still be visually stunning. Imagine an animated Dark Tower series that could actually do the books justice. Or maybe if Game of Thrones had been animated we could have had dragons AND direwolves in the same episodes.

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u/Lemus05 4d ago

someone forgot about the 1st ever animated adaptation of lord of the rings? :p

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u/anillop 4d ago

Where there’s a whip there’s a way.

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u/Morgoth_Bauglir888 4d ago

We don't want to go to war today

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u/queensquiddy 4d ago

but the lord of the lash says nay, nay, nay

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u/bloodhoundbb 4d ago

We're gonna march all day, all day, alll dayyyy

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u/figgypie 4d ago

I love that one! I wish they had made the second movie.

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u/DXM147 4d ago

Yeah, I mean, Rankin and Bass did ROTK, it lines up pretty well with the end of Lord of the Rings by Bakshi

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u/figgypie 4d ago

I love the Rankin Bass adaptations too. I was literally just singing "Where There's a Whip There's a Way" to myself lol.

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u/Otto_Matic82 4d ago

Nah man. It's all about the original animated adaptation of The Hobbit.

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u/wharpua 4d ago

The greeeaaaaaaaatesssst adventurrreeee

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u/Rolandthelast 4d ago

So true! A animated dark tower series is the only way I could see the story working on screen. It’s a pretty out there story and I think that’s just difficult to pull off with live action. Not saying it can’t be done because I’d love to see it done right but I’m not holding my breath.

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u/LemmieBee 4d ago

I thought people would be open to different visual mediums for more mature stories but the reaction to The Dark Crystal proved that to be wrong. So many wrote it off because they thought it was for kids and then it was canceled.

Invincible on Amazon prime did really well so that’s reassuring. But I’m sure there’s still people that won’t give it a single thought due to it being animated.

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u/AnotherJasonOnReddit 4d ago

Imagine an animated Dark Tower series that could actually do the books justice. Or maybe if Game of Thrones had been animated we could have had dragons AND direwolves in the same episodes.

Don't. Don't give me hope.

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u/dickforadolla 4d ago edited 4d ago

As soon as Christopher Tolkien died they got free rain to bastardize lotr. This will be the first of hundreds EDIT: REIGN GODDAMMIT, REIGN NOT RAIN

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u/Theons_sausage 4d ago

I am pretty sure Philippa Boyens didn't write the original trilogy. Think that was some English guy.

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u/utdconsq 4d ago

N..Nani? Aragorn chan?

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u/its_justme 4d ago

Not sure if I am alone on this but, I don't really see this as being successful. A story that no one really asked for is becoming animated. Just why? Animation for the Silmarillion origin story or any of Middle Earth's early history is far more fantastical than the OG LOTR stories. Big opportunity to leverage animation to show the really crazy visuals, and a far more interesting tale to tell.

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u/TridiusX 4d ago

Animating the Silmarillion has huge Fantasia vibes now that I think about it.

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u/tns1996 4d ago

They don't have the rights to the silmarillion and probably never will. They do however have the rights to The Lord of the Rings

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u/bobofartt 4d ago

Christopher is dead, there are no adults left at home, LOL.