r/nba 76ers 5d ago

'Widely believed' NBA will add expansion teams in Seattle, likely Las Vegas

https://nba.nbcsports.com/2021/05/20/report-widely-believed-nba-will-add-expansion-teams-in-seattle-likely-las-vegas/
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u/BigusDickus099 5d ago

Harden will straight show up to games in Las Vegas with zero sleep and strippers on both arms...its destiny for him to play for Vegas.

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u/NoobOnTheRun 76ers 4d ago

he'll force another trade just to play on the Vegas team

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u/cb148 Lakers 4d ago

I’m taking my talents to the strip club, I mean the Strip.

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u/thelukus5 Hawks 4d ago

Not one not two not three not four

But 14 strippers! And all you can eat crab legs $2.99!!

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u/clrksml Bucks 4d ago

im gonna create my own team with strippers and black jack...

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u/pgogy 4d ago

Las Vegas blackjacks has a franchise ring about it

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u/bpcoyote 4d ago

Jameis Winston has entered the chat.

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u/Rolodox Lakers 4d ago

He’s gonna show up looking like Rick Ross and still hang 30

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u/PabloPaniello Pelicans 4d ago edited 4d ago

That was my thought - first guy to hear MVP chants after coming straight to arena from a casino all-nighter since MJ.

edit: grammar hard

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u/imsahoamtiskaw Raptors 4d ago

The beard was the first step in his Rozay transformation process.

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u/darkshark21 Lakers 4d ago

More like Mark Henry.

Still average double double scoring/assists.

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u/chiefpassh2os 4d ago

He's still got a lot left in the tank

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u/DidiGreglorius 4d ago

GOAT segment

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u/ZayuhTheIV Heat 4d ago

I love it when NBA and WWE crosses over lmao

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u/magikarp2122 4d ago

Putting other teams in the Hall of Pain

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u/YoungDawz Nets 4d ago

With the first pick of the 2023 NBA expansion draft, the Las Vegas Aces select:

James Harden!

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u/ninety4kid [ORL] Aaron Gordon 4d ago

Taking his talents to the WNBA as Jamie Hardener.

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u/Napalm_Oilswims Warriors 4d ago

He keeps the beard though

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u/ninety4kid [ORL] Aaron Gordon 4d ago

Oh of course. The bearded lady is gonna be huge for their publicity.

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u/DoomdUser Celtics 4d ago

I'll take it a step further and say the goddamn franchise should be named after him.

Las Vegas Hardens

It serves as a proper noun, a mascot, and a verb! I don't see how it could be named anything else!

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u/ShAd0wS Celtics 4d ago

the Las Vegas Beard?

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u/Fruit-Stand-Man Nets 4d ago

That could have another meaning

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u/pgogy 4d ago

I vote for this name for this reason

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u/ukbeasts Rockets 4d ago

Paul Pierce will be their pimp

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u/mastajhov Supersonics 4d ago

Stop lying to Seattle we have been heartbroken long enough…

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u/Revolutionary-Pace42 Supersonics 4d ago

Seattle is NBA's favorite collateral. They just dangle our names to get new arenas in their cities and threaten their team base to take their teams to Seattle and only to get what they want and then we end up not having a team again. I hate this shit so much.

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u/mastajhov Supersonics 4d ago

That is exactly what they do to us. Use us and then boom teams get it together look at the suns they said they’d be the Sonics if they didn’t get what they want and boom now everything is amazing

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u/couggrad 4d ago

For real

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u/mastajhov Supersonics 4d ago

Sick of hearing “everyone wants Seattle to have a team again” then we never get a fucking team

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u/c0y0t3_sly 4d ago

The NBA doesn't give a fuck or they never would have allowed the team to get stolen in the first fucking place. Fuck the NBA.

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u/BendersBlender Supersonics 4d ago

And a Big F Clay Bennet and Howard Schultz for good measure.

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u/mastajhov Supersonics 4d ago

I feel your pain and anger

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u/MCclapyourhands1 4d ago

Macklemore publicly came out in 2013 very upset that OKC was playing his songs. We a bunch of bitter people lol

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u/King_Of_Pants [BOS] Terry Rozier 5d ago

It's still a nothing article, just like all the other ones prior.

Even the article itself links to another article saying the NBA won't even talk about it until 2022. Until then it's just people speculating based on the fact we know an expansion will eventually come.

A more accurate headline would be: "Widely believed NBA will add expansion teams at some point in the future."

That 'some point' could be 5, 10 or 20 years from now. There doesn't seem to be a mad rush to get it done.

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u/rwc202 Nets 5d ago

I’ve always thought the CBA expanding rosters to 17 was a way of pushing back the expansion talk. Owners don’t have to lose any revenue shared while the players get more people qualified for the union.

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u/King_Of_Pants [BOS] Terry Rozier 5d ago

I saw it as a way to promote the D/G-League as a genuine development league.

Which would add another revenue stream and another talent pipeline for the NBA.

I'm not sure how big of an impact it would have on expansion talks though.

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u/huntzy Mavericks 5d ago

There is 0 chance of the G-league being both a revenue stream and a talent pipeline for the NBA. The NBA can't even get people to watch regular season games. G-league games are never going to draw significant viewing interest and if they want to serves as a pipeline to the pros, they're going to have to pay salaries that likely make it impossible to profit from.

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u/jimmythang34 5d ago

Well when the alternative is the NCAA, which doesn’t pay, it won’t require much salary I bet

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u/huntzy Mavericks 5d ago

I think you're seriously underestimating how cool it is to be the star of a big college basketball program.

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u/gdeanu Timberwolves 4d ago edited 4d ago

I hate these aggregator articles.

You go to the source of the quote and it is an article about Masai Ujiri's future and how maybe joining an expansion ownership group could be a new endeavor for him.

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u/JagmeetSingh2 5d ago

They should add another team to LA we all see how much the LA community had accepted the Clippers /s

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u/AncientChrist Heat 4d ago

That team easily could have moved to Vegas and still would have an arena filled with Lakers fans.

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u/NorthernBaskets Tampa Bay Raptors 4d ago

When the Lakers are in town, sure. But I'm sure there are lot of NBA fans in Vegas who would throw their support behind a home team. My dad was a Bulls fan before the Raptors came to town. Rooting for the home team just hits different because you have a real connection to the club

The Clippers main problem is there already is a home team in LA. That being said, LA is so big it's still a good market for ticket sales. There are Lakers fans who go to see the Clippers play because they like basketball and it's cheaper

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u/DangerousCommittee5 Pistons 5d ago

2 new teams in the West so 1 team will move to the East. Minnesota? Memphis?

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u/Chopsticks487 5d ago

Should be Minny. Geographically they are closest to the midwest teams and currently have to fly the longest distance of any other team because of how far away the other West teams are from them

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u/EazyParise Timberwolves 5d ago

For goodness sake, let us be in a division with Milwaukee and Chicago. It's the natural order!!

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u/SwissDecaf Raptors 5d ago

Oh yeah you guys love hating each other.

I remember hearing that when I worked in an office that had fans from all 4 NFC North teams.

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u/Kwakmeister Rockets 4d ago

"The Vikings suck!" -Packers fans

"The Packers suck!" -Bears fans

"The Bears suck!" -Vikings fans

"We exist!" -The Lions

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u/justpayyourdues Pistons 4d ago

"The Lions suck!" -Lions fans

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u/iwenttocollegeonce Pistons 4d ago

Nobody hates the Lions like Lions fans

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u/nalydpsycho Trail Blazers 4d ago

They have to watch the games.

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u/Sharcbait Timberwolves 4d ago

You are a little off. Vikings hate Packers. Bears hate the Packers. Packers hate the Bears. Lions hate the Lions.

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u/AFatz 4d ago

Pistons fans punching air at this comment.

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u/iLiketheCeltics 5d ago

I think they also are consistently the most traveled team in the nba.

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u/BooLovesDemEyes 5d ago

Wolves and Blazers trade off. This would help both teams quite a bit.

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u/jmlinden7 Rockets 4d ago edited 4d ago

The blazers would benefit by traveling more to Vegas and Seattle, which are shorter trips than they currently make to OKC and Minny

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u/MeatThatTalks Trail Blazers 4d ago

We would absolutely welcome both the much shorter travel distance and the return of the Portland-Seattle series.

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u/bradlei 4d ago

Fuck yeah! Bring back the I-5 rivalry!

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u/AJRiddle 4d ago

Portland and Seattle are always going to be the most traveled because they are located hundreds of miles away from other major cities and on the corner of the country. Like Portland is nearly 1000 miles away from LA and that's one of the closest cities to them.

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u/Lmao_Stonks Lakers 4d ago

That’s actually a misconception, they’re actually the most gather stepped team in the league. Not a travel.

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u/ggddddeerrr Timberwolves 5d ago

YES PLEASE MOVE US TO THE EAST

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u/lemonpepperlarry 4d ago

So you can miss the eastern playoffs too?

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u/ggddddeerrr Timberwolves 4d ago

Yes

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u/Blumpkin_Party Hawks 5d ago

New Orleans! Need the ATL-NO rivalry in hoops too.

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u/ILoveZimsD Timberwolves 5d ago

Yeah but I need my MN-WI/CHI/DET rivalry in hoops

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u/Lil_Danson_Man Bulls 5d ago

Sadly the NFC North circle of hate doesn't really exist in basketball, I'm pretty much indifferent about the Bucks. Some older Bulls fans might hate the Pistons because of that late 80's era rivalry, but nowadays there's not much there. The way the NBA is set up - with divisions being completely meaningless - the regional rivalries kinda suck

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u/MatthewCauthon [PHI] Manute Bol 5d ago

Maybe in some places, but I still hate the Celtics as much as I ever have.

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u/RepealMCAandDTA Nets 4d ago

Hand clasping meme

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u/ChocoYoda395 Celtics 4d ago

I hate you too but that's the most fun way to watch no matter who wins.

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u/totaldrk62 Timberwolves 4d ago

I like the Bucks. I fucking like a cheesehead team. This isn't the natural order of things.

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u/one8sevenn Jazz 5d ago

Ja Morant to the East. I can totally dig it.

The dude is going to be very scary.

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u/annoyingrelative Lakers 5d ago

"Vegas Flu" is a thing, the NHL Golden Knights are 96-38 at home.

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u/Poozer62 Lakers 5d ago

Helped by the fact the Knights have also been one of the best teams in the league since literally the moment they were drafted.

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u/fakerealmadrid Mavericks 4d ago

Didn’t they have the best expansion draft in modern sports history, in terms of the changed arrangements for their expansion draft?

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u/SovietWeapon Pistons 4d ago

I mean the draft rules were in their favor compared to any other expansion team iirc.

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u/Blu3b3Rr1 Celtics 4d ago

The Seattle NHL team will also have the same expansion rules applied to them as well

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u/spookyghostface [CHA] Kemba Walker 4d ago

What a badass name too.

Seattle KRAKEN

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u/Blu3b3Rr1 Celtics 4d ago

I really want them to be rivals with Vancouver

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u/Bernard_Samson Jazz 4d ago

We are. We really are.

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u/DJToastyBuns 76ers 4d ago

I really wanted to see Vancouver over LV for NBA expansion. Seems like the PNW teams deserve a rivalry

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u/Bernard_Samson Jazz 4d ago

As a Kraken fan, and a Jazz fan, I can finally proudly cheer for a team with a badass name. Lol.

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u/jaypizzlepizzle Rockets 4d ago

jazz made so much more sense in new orleans. when the team moved it should've gone with something more like "the Salt Lake Salty Lakes"

y'all have the best branding this year though. the court and unis are some of my favorite i've ever seen tbh

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u/Bernard_Samson Jazz 4d ago

I suppose I always thought that it was jarringly odd to have an NBA team in Utah, so why not have a jarringly odd nickname? Lol.

Yeah, for me, I think Utah and Miami had the best branding this year.

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u/AniviaPls Raptors 4d ago

Beautiful jerseys too

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u/barred_out Celtics 4d ago

this may be true, but i distinctly remember people in r/hockey and wherever else memeing the Golden Knights roster after the draft and the general consensus being they would be shit. they had a lot of guys break out for them and revitalized MAF.

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u/ricardoconqueso 4d ago

The Golden Knights were a band of "misfit toys" that their teams didnt protect so they played with a chip on their shoulder. But they drafted well, players who might have been undervalued and underplayed so we saw what some of these players were really made of. Doesnt hurt to have a solid goalie tandem to back stop your experiment of a team.

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u/Lumpy_Doubt 4d ago

Exactly. It wasn't until they literally started winning a bunch of games that people realized they were good.

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u/xiSerbia Lakers 4d ago

The funny thing was when the draft happened, everyone said they drafted poorly. Then they started winning and suddenly the draft wasn’t fair

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u/joshkies 4d ago

If you go back and look at the original predictions and assessment of their draft afterwards and before they started playing, expectations were incredibly low lol. There were a lot of analysts that said Vegas would take years to compete and they would be feeding on the bottom of their division for at least the first year.

Narrative definitely changed once they reached the finals in year one, all of a sudden the draft was tilted in their favor and everything was unfair. The real culprits were the GMs across the league who attempted 4D chess, showering the team with draft picks and players to protect players. It will be interesting to see how GMs treat the upcoming expansion draft with Seattle. I don't think they go down the same path to protect certain players like they did with Vegas.

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u/nalydpsycho Trail Blazers 4d ago

The amazing thing was how they got a bunch of future assets then turned around and traded those future assets for star players.

But the big thing no one could have seen was Karlsson, they drafted a 3rd liner with upside to be more and got their 1st line center.

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u/joshkies 4d ago

I think my favorite was Florida offering Riley Smith up if they took Marchessault off their hands. "Okay, dang, don't twist our arms too hard!" And now they play together on one of the best, if not the best, second lines in the league with Karlsson.

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u/lilgump Supersonics 4d ago

They may have learned and won't be swindled as much by Seattle. But hopefully with Covid and a potential cap squeeze, there might be some opportunities for Seattle to pounce on!

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u/Neemz1844 Timberwolves 4d ago

i think its a good thing. nobody wants to watch an expansion team be shit for 5-10 years for them to sort their shit out. its nice when they come in hot right away and get garner fans and interest. its good for the game imo

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u/RdJNL [LAL] Kobe Bryant 4d ago

Visited a game there a couple years ago and was surprised at how invested the Vegas fans were. Obviously away fans and tourists like to travel to Vegas, so there's a lot of them in the arena, but the home fans were far more fanatical than I expected with such a young team.

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u/PomfAndCircvmstance Supersonics 4d ago

Visited a game there a couple years ago and was surprised at how invested the Vegas fans were.

Vegas locals are big time sports fans who never had a professional team to rally around. Look at how huge UNLV basketball was in the 90s and even with a smaller population then Rebel games were still huge events.

You put an NBA team in Vegas and it'll have crazy fan support which is an underrated aspect of the Vegas market compared to other cities where the market may be bigger but you won't get the same level of community investment.

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u/91Caleb Raptors 4d ago

Honestly they had most of their roster success from teams pissing themselves and making side deals where they Vegas fleeced them.. fla, cbj, min and pit basically gave them their core not from drafted players

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u/pumaturtle Lakers 4d ago

Funny how everyone was saying the opposite till they came out of the gate running.

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u/Seref15 Heat 4d ago

Duncan Robinson mentioned on his podcast that a similar phenomenon happens in Miami--away teams land in Miami, go out to party, and show up to games not at 100% leading to the Heat having a greater home advantage. He also mentioned that because of Covid restrictions the away team really couldn't party this year so the advantage was reduced.

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u/AZFramer Jazz 4d ago

The REAL reason Utah dominates its home games as well!

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u/jihyoisgod 76ers 4d ago

Raiders are 2-6

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u/livingroomfuckmom 4d ago

when the crowd is constantly turnt it helps

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u/OnlyForeignWhips 5d ago

Las Vegas will have the biggest home court advantage in the NBA. Players absolutely love that city.

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u/SixersWin 76ers 5d ago

They're going to love no income taxes in Nevada even more

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u/1_set_of_testicles Supersonics 5d ago

fwiw, washington has no income tax either

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u/kimboslice11 Heat 5d ago

Niether does FL, but it doesn't help Orlando attract the big names

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u/WesKhalifaa [POR] Damian Lillard 5d ago

That’s cause it has the disadvantage of being Orlando

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u/Someonediffernt Suns 5d ago

Yeah especially since everyone can just go to Miami instead

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u/suchaherosandwich Magic 5d ago

cries in Orlando

Yeah, I mean we may not have a lot to do compared to big cities, but any superstar that comes here that embraces the city will run it. Dwight ran this place when he was here.

Plus.. I mean we do have good food options, both local and chain/ritzy but so do a lot of places. And Disney. Yeah, it's tough here for a basketball fan.

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u/PolarBearLaFlare Suns Bandwagon 5d ago

what are some good food places in Orlando? Stuff on the fancier/experimental side. I vacationed there 2 years ago and the best I could find on Eater/Thrillest was some lobster buffet that was pretty mediocre. I couldn’t find any nice restaurants cause 90% of the people that i asked were tourists or “didn’t eat out like that”. My gf wants to go back this summer and it’d be nice to have some good places lined up

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u/FourthBanEvasion 4d ago

There's an Arby's in Winter Springs. You can find me there most hours of the day.

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u/ZeroMomentum Tampa Bay Raptors 5d ago

At least you are not Tampa

Cause fuck Tampa bay

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u/RollOverBeethoven Rockets 5d ago

Neither does Texas... and yeah.

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u/Bext Mavs 5d ago

If players really cared about that why would Harden force a trade to a New York team? I think the income tax thing is one of the most overblown things in terms of NBA decisionmaking

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u/SixersWin 76ers 5d ago

Players like Harden can definitely make more with endorsements in a big market. I'm thinking more about mid tier and lower players.

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u/X-Maquina Knicks Bandwagon 4d ago

Is Houston not considered a big market anymore? And I really struggle to imagine what type of endorsements Harden couldn't get in Houston that he can get in NY. He's an MVP already. Being in NY is not really gonna up his profile anymore than being an MVP and scoring 40 every night in Houston did imo

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u/so-cal_kid Lakers 5d ago

Living in NYC as a rich person has perks that are worth paying taxes for.

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u/SenHeffy Jazz 5d ago

It's like a 3% difference to them. The cost of housing is going to be a bigger difference than state income tax. Like, Sacramento vs Golden State is probably a bigger difference from these marginal costs than Golden State vs Miami.

They do still pay state income tax for every away game in a place that has it, so state income tax only matters for half the games.

I don't think it's that big of a difference for a lot of players to make a decision about where to play over.

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u/shitpostingerryday Lakers 5d ago

People love visiting, Vegas is straight up one of the worst places to live in the entire world.

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u/GotMoFans Grizzlies 5d ago edited 4d ago

People keep saying Las Vegas, but with everyone knowing Seattle is getting an expansion team, the owners would get higher expansion fees by putting the second team up for competition so that Vegas, Kansas City, Louisville, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Vancouver, Nashville, Tampa, Norfolk/Virginia Beach, Columbus, and Montreal can vie for the second expansion team.

Edit: I’ll add San Diego and St. Louis to this list of prospective cities.

2nd Edit: I don't know the situations for all the cities on my list, but I will give other that I intentionally left off. I'll give my best opinions about the other cities:

Austin, TX - Left off due to proximity to San Antonio

Anaheim - Proximity to Los Angeles

San Jose - Part of the Warriors home market

Baltimore - Proximity to Washington, DC

Jacksonville - Smaller market with competition from long standing NFL franchise

Birmingham - Smaller market

Providence and Hartford - Proximity to Boston and NYC

Buffalo - Smaller market with NFL and NHL franchises

The cities I think could be contenders

Las Vegas (MSA population 2.3 million people/ TV market 743k Television homes) - Pros: Fast growing, tourist mecca, high fan avidity for NBA basketball / Cons: Competition from the NHL & NFL; possibly MLB in the future; No surrounding region to supplement media package, How much control does the Vegas Golden Knights have over the T-Mobile Arena (potentially limiting arena revenue for NBA)?

Kansas City (2.2 million / 897K) - Pros: NBA arena; basketball mecca / Cons: Competition from established MLB, NFL, and MLS teams; Previously lost an NBA franchise (Kings)

Louisville (1.3 million / 636K) - Pros: High NBA fan avidity, NBA arena with only has UL Cardinals as tenant (20 games a season), aggressively pursued NBA in the past and close to getting Rockets, Grizzlies, and Hornets. / Cons: Smaller market, Fairly close to Indianapolis (Indiana Pacers), Power of the University of Louisville (basketball program) and its boosters to keep NBA away (speculation is the Hornets were going to choose Louisville over New Orleans but Pitino and other UL figures publicly opposed the NBA in Louisville)

Cincinnati (2.2 million / 828K) - Pros: Strong corporate community / Cons: No arena, competition from NFL, MLB, and MLS, fairly close to Indianapolis, Lost NBA in the distant past (Royals which became the Kings)

Pittsburgh (2.3 million / 1.1M) - Pros: Modern NBA style arena / Cons: Competition from NFL, MLB, and NHL, NHL team controls the arena, losing population.

Vancouver (2.5 million / Not US TV Market) - Pros: Fast growing, One of the larger US/Canadian markets without NBA Cons: Older arena owned by NHL team owner, Lost NBA franchise (Grizzlies) when NBA wasn't as popular in the market as it may be now, Not a US market so would not help with future national US television deals (TNT/ESPN)

Nashville (2.0 million / 983K) Pros: Fast growing boom town Cons: NHL controls local NBA style arena, competition from NHL, NFL, and MLS, In the same state as Memphis Grizzlies (though a distance of 200 miles) and may face opposition from Grizzlies ownership

Tampa (3.2 million / 1.8M) Pros: Largest US TV market without NBA Cons: NHL controls local NBA style arena, competition from MLB, NFL, and NHL, proximity to Orlando

Hampton Roads Metro/Norfolk/Virginia Beach (1.8 million / 684K) Pros: No major league competition, high NBA fan avidity Cons: No arena, multiple city market which may hamper efforts

Columbus, OH (2.1 million / 877K) Pros: Fast growing, NBA arena Cons: NHL franchise which controls NBA style arena. Also MLS team.

Montreal (4.2 million / Not US TV Market) Pros: Largest US/Canada market without NBA Cons: NHL franchise controls the NBA style arena. MLS franchise, City may be focused on pursuing MLB franchise rather than NBA

San Diego (3.3 million / 982K) Pros: Largest mid-sized US market without NBA which is bigger if population in Tijuana, Mexico is factored (4.9 million) / Cons: No arena, previously lost NBA twice (Houston Rockets & Los Angeles Clippers), competition from MLB

St. Louis (2.8 million / 1.1M) Pros: One of the larger US markets without the NBA / Cons: Competition from NHL, MLB, and MLS, NHL franchise controls the NBA style arena, Previously lost NBA franchise in distant past (Atlanta Hawks).

My sentimental choices would be Louisville or the Hampton Roads metro. I think what will make the big difference is the ownership groups. Not many investors will have $2-3 billion sitting around to buy an NBA expansion franchise.

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u/HamlnHand Hawks Tankwagon 4d ago

Love Nashville and thinks it's a great sports city but there's absolutely no way they get a team when Memphis already has one

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u/Slowlow24 Magic 4d ago

Same with Orlando blocking Tampa from OPs list of cities

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u/penguin8717 4d ago

Yes Pittsburgh. Bring back the pipers

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u/MCalchemist 4d ago

Black and gold jerseys would be fresh and everyone knows it

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u/penguin8717 4d ago

They're just scared

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u/ManInBlack829 Warriors 4d ago

I think everyone who scratches their head at Kansas City forgets the KU effect and how much that city loves basketball

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u/GotMoFans Grizzlies 4d ago

KC's top asset is the T-Mobile Center which can be renovated to the NBA's desires. I think the city has been overlooked because of the financial issues the Royals have had over the years and an assumption the market couldn't support a third (fourth if we count MLS) franchise.

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u/choff22 Mavericks Bandwagon 4d ago

I’m from there originally, can confirm that town would go nuts over a NBA team.

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u/lilshowtime 4d ago

Norfolk/VB is a solid option. Hampton Roads metro area is pretty large.

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u/Wefting 4d ago

Let’s fucking go Montreal . Bring us the Bloq Quebecois with Dort and Boucher .

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u/QuasiQool Lakers 4d ago

San Diego? Largest US market without a team?

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u/IvankasFutureHusband Suns 4d ago

We are officially a baseball town. 2 NBA teams already left us. They cant compete with the Lakers even in SD. We should never get another NBA team imho

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u/MoscowMitchMcKremIin Pistons 4d ago

Makes sense that SD wouldn't want another team just to have them leave AGAIN. Idk why that city keeps getting fucked over at every turn.

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u/IvankasFutureHusband Suns 4d ago

Its okay they all died for one Fernando Tatis Jr

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u/waitingonthatbuffalo Pistons 4d ago

It's a laidback, half-tourist-y half-surfer city. Steve Kerr, who lived there after retiring as a player, said on a podcast once that San Diego's just not a sports town.

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u/QuasiQool Lakers 4d ago

It’s a baseball town and an SDSU city

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u/slippinJimmy93 76ers 4d ago

i just moved to SD and would greedily LOVE having a basketball team here. would be the biggest fan

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u/Galumpadump Supersonics 4d ago edited 4d ago

Seattle is the Largest market without an NBA team. San Diego is the largest without an NFL team.

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u/HopscotchChampion69 Bulls 4d ago

As someone from Louisville I'm obviously biased but don't see a reason why an NBA team couldn't work here. We sell out (or close to it) minor league soccer games so the interest for professional sports is definitely there.

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u/TheMainShy Supersonics 5d ago edited 4d ago

I miss bantering with you all with an actual team to root for, so I hope this happens.

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u/_patrickshannon1234 5d ago

Can’t wait for opening night in 2025: OKC @ Seattle

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u/jchukwuxii Rockets 5d ago

Russ and KD will be starting for Seattle when it happens

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u/_patrickshannon1234 5d ago

Prime SGA, Dort, and Cade vs the old guard.

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u/jchukwuxii Rockets 5d ago

Idc if Russ and KD will be 37 years old, they still better be starting against those young guns. Even if it’s only for that game 😂

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u/proerafortyseven 76ers 5d ago

KD will be a starter for sure

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u/TheMainShy Supersonics 5d ago

The crowd at the new Seattle arena would probably break the decibel levels for loudness.

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u/NickDerpkins Magic 4d ago

Its crazy how good of a move it was for the NHL to expand to vegas early and make it a hockey town preemptively.

Obviously NBA will exceed there, but if the NBA/NFL moved there first I cant image the NHL team would be doing great right now

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u/Coogrr Raptors 5d ago edited 4d ago

I'm very interested to experience an expansion draft, I wonder who's going to get the worst of it

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u/waltaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Timberwolves 4d ago

Teams can only lose one player maximum, and since there will be two teams drafting 15 players; every team will have one player drafted away.

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u/trojan_man16 Hornets 4d ago

The expansion teams. Look at the last three expansion drafts for the Raptors/Grizzlies/Bobcats. A lot of role players and end of the bench guys. The best player to come out of those was Gerald Wallace who at the time was buried deep in the Kings bench.

There is a reason the Grizzlies were bad until the move, the Raptors were awful until Vince Carter and the Zombie Bobcats have never been good. Expansion teams are screwed.

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u/GumpTheChump 5d ago

I really wish they would put a team back in Vancouver (under good ownership) or in Montreal.

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u/PlumCantaloupe Raptors 5d ago

Need to get that Canadian investment higher so the Raps aren’t the only ones fighting for parity.

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u/Peter_Deceito 4d ago

The grizzlies left Vancouver just as that city really took off. With the real estate boom and all the money there now, a team would do well.

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u/DudeofallDudes [LAL] Kobe Bryant 4d ago

a lot of ballers in Van who grew up wishing they still had their team to root for. They brought em back I'm sure it would take off. The landscape has changed a lot too, went from 90% European to around 45% since 1995 I think.

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u/gucci-legend [SEA] Patrick Ewing 4d ago

It would probably be like the 3rd most popular team in china too

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u/KingDavid920 Lakers 5d ago

As someone who lives in Ottawa. PLEASE add one in Montreal. PLEASE

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u/intenselydecent Bucks 5d ago

Montreal would be a great NBA city imo, but the league has so many teams in the northeast already, I think any expansion has to be westward

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u/CEO_of_CockNBalls Heat 4d ago

lmao imagine them adding teams in the canadian midwest

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u/SeparateAd6557 Tampa Bay Raptors 4d ago

Fuck that, give me an arctic circle team, the Nunavut Polar Bears

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u/KingDavid920 Lakers 4d ago

Saskatoon Prairies has a nice ring to it.

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u/MoscowMitchMcKremIin Pistons 4d ago

Why not just stick to the Canadian tradition of naming a team the Rough Riders?

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u/Alauren2 Supersonics 4d ago

God stop toying with us already.

Also, Seattle better get back it’s history. And KD.

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u/BackwashBooty Thunder 4d ago

Agreed, the title and History belongs in Seattle. There's so much animosity between Seattle and OKC that I bet any game is between them will be so intense. Especially in Seattle. It's going to be great.

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u/CastingPouch 5d ago

Can we please bring back Vancouvers team? We need more than 1 Canadian team

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u/RayLovesCurry Thunder 5d ago

I can’t believe so many people are against expansion teams. If the NBA wants to grow domestically at a higher rate it’s essential for them to get to 32 teams because their international growth is already much higher then the other American leagues.

Even if the talent is somewhat watered down adding 2 teams to a desirable market like Seattle is good business practice. Not to mention Vegas might actually be one of the legitimate FA destinations akin to Miami, LA, and NY so they won’t be irrelevant teams for too long.

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u/azorahai84 Raptors 5d ago

I know some people are saying there isn’t enough talent, but I think there is so much talent right now. No matter what though, there is always going to be an upper echelon of players, and when you see multiple players from that upper tier group up on a couple teams they are obviously going to be better than the rest

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u/SolarClipz [SAC] DeMarcus Cousins 5d ago

Because if the superteam thing isn't fixed, then it's just 2 more shit teams to be shit

If the talent was actually spread out again, it would be fine

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u/butidktho_ NBA 5d ago

Exactly. NBA is as talented as it’s ever been. But when it comes down to it, when stars team up it weakens the power structure. Regardless of how talented the league is overall. it becomes top heavy. with that being said, these last few years have been as close to having parity as we’ve been in a while (sans brooklyn w/ a healthy harden)

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u/Jontacular Nuggets 5d ago

Is there though? My ultimate concern is a lack of parity.

12 different championship teams in the last 41 years, Lakers winning 11 of those titles. We already have guys jumping ship on losing teams and going to a mainstream team.

I already feel like in 2-3 years, Zion will be with the Lakers or some other high market team and Pelicans are screwed.

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u/firemonkey1313 76ers 5d ago

Yeah there's plenty of talent

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u/jpacerox Cavaliers 5d ago

Remember for a second there when we didn’t have super teams and instead had dynamic duos all around the league? Maybe this will force that to happen again.

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u/MilkTasteBad Knicks 5d ago

The NBA needs to establish a hard cap for that to happen

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u/AFatz 4d ago

Yeah Luxury Tax is kinda bullshit for big market teams.

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u/GloryMaelstrom21 5d ago

Wouldn’t be shocked if the first season of a Las Vegas team could make it to the NBA finals.

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u/EmersonEtem Knicks 5d ago

It’d be the first time in Vegas Golden Knights history!

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u/xcompanioncube Heat 5d ago

First time in Seattle Kraken history as well

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u/German_Irish_chicken Bucks Bandwagon 5d ago

Las Vegas Golden Raiders

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u/FelwintersCake Wizards 5d ago

Would be historic

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u/DudeofallDudes [LAL] Kobe Bryant 4d ago

All of Vancouver punching the air rn.

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u/Spartacus3321 4d ago

I know the Vancouver Grizzlies sucked but I want them to have a team so bad.

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u/stotts-tots 5d ago

Put one in Kansas City, cowards.

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u/Kony-2020 Huskies 5d ago

Add a team in Vancouver you cowards

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u/P1KA_BO0 Raptors 4d ago

Not with Seattle at the same time. Though that would be kind of fun, two cascadia teams fighting to build themselves up at the same time. If they’re going to go Canadian I assume Montreal gets a team, but with the way the dollar is going I don’t know how likely that is.

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u/thisismyfirstday Suns 4d ago

At its highest point in the last 7 years or so? But yeah, Canadian teams in an essentially all-US league are a risk. Toronto gets around it by being a large market (especially in terms of TV as the only Canadian team) that can basically charge what they want.

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u/gartho009 Supersonics 5d ago

I wonder how many more of these headlines I'll read before the NBA says something concrete. Shit or get off the pot, Silver!

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u/kenjirouen Supersonics 4d ago

I might not be able to make it if we get one of these teases every single month, I’m serious.

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u/dman777 Celtics 5d ago

As a KY livin chump, I was really hoping Louisville would get a team. The talk going around was Toronto was possibly going to play through the YUM! Center but thanks to our DA screwing up the handling of the Breonna Taylor situation, Toronto opted to move further south.

Could have been a solid testing of how pro ball could work in the state again.

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u/EnricoPalazz0 [LAL] Kurt Rambis 5d ago edited 4d ago

As a Vegas local, I am beyond hyped if this happens. I'm a lifelong Lakers fan as Vegas is basically North LA. Fan base will love any team that comes.

I keep hearing rumors we'll be getting MLB soon also.

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u/vivekisprogressive Kings 5d ago

Would the NHL arena be able to do NBA? Because I think any city with an already built modern arena has to be a shoe in.

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u/verhaegen Knicks 5d ago

Yes, they have the PAC-12 men's basketball tournament there

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u/6000kd Raptors 5d ago

32 might be a bit much, however a Vegas team could be cool and Seattle also deserves their team back

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u/Bigbadbuck Nets 5d ago

yeah they deserve their history back tbh.

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u/zmajxd [MIN] D'Angelo Russell 5d ago

Part of the agreement is that they get their history back when a team gets added there.

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u/daribro17 Timberwolves 5d ago

How is 32 too much? That’s what NFL and NHL have. I think it’s a very clean number, especially with the 16 team (official) playoff structure

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u/JohnnyFootballHero Raptors 5d ago

Seattle also deserves their team back

So does Vancouver. We got fucked over because of the NBA lockout and the weak Canadian dollar back in the late '90s.

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u/gartho009 Supersonics 5d ago

as a nature junkie, "Memphis Grizzlies" has always made me want to puke

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u/kantersgobertscumrag Heat 4d ago

As a music enthusiast, "Utah Jazz" has a a similar effect.

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u/Vostin Nuggets 4d ago

Especially SLC, of all places

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u/rockshow4070 Suns Bandwagon 4d ago

There are black bears in Tennessee, so I see no issue changing the team name to the “Memphis Blacks”.

Yup. Definitely no issue there.

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u/6000kd Raptors 5d ago

Agreed

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